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		<title>Comment on Caloundra: reasons for being there by Jan Taylor</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2009/12/caloundra-reasons-for-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to say on this glorious, sunny and fresh Sabbath day, that my aunt and her husband moved up to Caloundra in the early 70&#039;s  (of the 1900&#039;s).   I am pondering how gorgeous God&#039;s creation is still now and am heartened to visualise what it would have been like in the 20&#039;s.  At our first visit with my now husband in the early 70&#039;s, Caloundra was a sleepy fishing village and quite picturesque.  Not the hustling, bustling high-rise populated city that it now is....that&#039;s progress for our ever-increasing population.  A nevertheless beautiful place to be, but I wonder if there will still remain those unspoilt, as God&#039;s intended nature, places where one can go to reconnect with our Maker in His marvellous handiwork before time and eternity roll on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to say on this glorious, sunny and fresh Sabbath day, that my aunt and her husband moved up to Caloundra in the early 70&#8242;s  (of the 1900&#8242;s).   I am pondering how gorgeous God&#8217;s creation is still now and am heartened to visualise what it would have been like in the 20&#8242;s.  At our first visit with my now husband in the early 70&#8242;s, Caloundra was a sleepy fishing village and quite picturesque.  Not the hustling, bustling high-rise populated city that it now is&#8230;.that&#8217;s progress for our ever-increasing population.  A nevertheless beautiful place to be, but I wonder if there will still remain those unspoilt, as God&#8217;s intended nature, places where one can go to reconnect with our Maker in His marvellous handiwork before time and eternity roll on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Noosa Trail Network by robyn jones</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2010/06/noosa-trail-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1574</link>
		<dc:creator>robyn jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 03:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John&#039;s observations re the view of the Neilsens Quality Gravels Kin Kin Quarry not being attractive from the Trail get more accurate daily. The court case he refers to was undertaken by the Kin Kin Community Group against the SCRC in October 2010.  Result, in spite of having documented proof to support claims that the quarry was not lawfully approved, we lost. Outcome will be one privately owned family company and one property owner becoming rich from a product which will be sold out of the area, with Kin Kin people and its beautiful environment losing in so many ways which include chosen lifestyle, road safety, property values, and other adverse economic impacts including employment. 

Yes, employment, the catch cry of the noisy minority (48 members according to the Supporters of the Kin Kin Quarry Facebook page) who seem to believe Ray Neilsen&#039;s initial assurances that around 20 jobs would result from the quarry operation. In his testimony in court Mr. Neilsen amended that statement to say &#039;eventually&#039; there might be 12 jobs. Contrast that with the 60 currently employed by Living Valley Springs Health Retreat, which adjoins the quarry and will be severely threatened by its hugely invasive presence - you do the math. Who wants to stay at a health retreat with huge, rattling trucks rolling past every 5 minutes, six days a week, from 7 am to 6 pm with the accompanying diesel fumes, clouds of dust and gravel, noise and vibration from blasting... you get the picture. Not particularly peaceful or reinvigorating.

The fact is that any short term gains (see above beneficiaries) will be vastly outweighed by the economic loss to the ecotourism industry of one of the most beautiful tracks on the Noosa Trail Network. This project was undertaken by the former Noosa Council and greatly praised and publicised by the SC Council, tourism bodies, the equestrian fraternity and tourists who see the hinterland as an integral part of the Noosa package. 

The trail currently features a gate ordering trail users to keep out. The quarry is not required to notify potential trail users of blasts, except for a notice which now says they can happen at any time, 6 days per week, between 7 am and 6 pm. Former trail users unaware of the quarry owners&#039; takeover of the trail will be greeted by the above, in spite of the fact that the trails are still advertised on Council&#039;s website as viable.

Also greatly at risk are the dozens of small businesses which have been established to service the growing natural health industry, which relies on the clean, green surrounds of the beautiful hinterland. Again, the quarry will add to unemployment as the resourceful locals who took these initiatives are driven out of business.

Shame, Sunshine Coast Council, shame DERM and the other State Government authorities who are not even holding the quarry owners properly accountable for numerous breaches. Shame for the Noosa River, which will inherit the 34% of the headwaters which originate in Kin Kin and which have already been contaminated with silt and clay through sloppy operation of the mega quarry. 

We have been betrayed on so many levels, as has our glorious environment. Disgraceful beyond belief.

Robyn Jones
Kin Kin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8217;s observations re the view of the Neilsens Quality Gravels Kin Kin Quarry not being attractive from the Trail get more accurate daily. The court case he refers to was undertaken by the Kin Kin Community Group against the SCRC in October 2010.  Result, in spite of having documented proof to support claims that the quarry was not lawfully approved, we lost. Outcome will be one privately owned family company and one property owner becoming rich from a product which will be sold out of the area, with Kin Kin people and its beautiful environment losing in so many ways which include chosen lifestyle, road safety, property values, and other adverse economic impacts including employment. </p>
<p>Yes, employment, the catch cry of the noisy minority (48 members according to the Supporters of the Kin Kin Quarry Facebook page) who seem to believe Ray Neilsen&#8217;s initial assurances that around 20 jobs would result from the quarry operation. In his testimony in court Mr. Neilsen amended that statement to say &#8216;eventually&#8217; there might be 12 jobs. Contrast that with the 60 currently employed by Living Valley Springs Health Retreat, which adjoins the quarry and will be severely threatened by its hugely invasive presence &#8211; you do the math. Who wants to stay at a health retreat with huge, rattling trucks rolling past every 5 minutes, six days a week, from 7 am to 6 pm with the accompanying diesel fumes, clouds of dust and gravel, noise and vibration from blasting&#8230; you get the picture. Not particularly peaceful or reinvigorating.</p>
<p>The fact is that any short term gains (see above beneficiaries) will be vastly outweighed by the economic loss to the ecotourism industry of one of the most beautiful tracks on the Noosa Trail Network. This project was undertaken by the former Noosa Council and greatly praised and publicised by the SC Council, tourism bodies, the equestrian fraternity and tourists who see the hinterland as an integral part of the Noosa package. </p>
<p>The trail currently features a gate ordering trail users to keep out. The quarry is not required to notify potential trail users of blasts, except for a notice which now says they can happen at any time, 6 days per week, between 7 am and 6 pm. Former trail users unaware of the quarry owners&#8217; takeover of the trail will be greeted by the above, in spite of the fact that the trails are still advertised on Council&#8217;s website as viable.</p>
<p>Also greatly at risk are the dozens of small businesses which have been established to service the growing natural health industry, which relies on the clean, green surrounds of the beautiful hinterland. Again, the quarry will add to unemployment as the resourceful locals who took these initiatives are driven out of business.</p>
<p>Shame, Sunshine Coast Council, shame DERM and the other State Government authorities who are not even holding the quarry owners properly accountable for numerous breaches. Shame for the Noosa River, which will inherit the 34% of the headwaters which originate in Kin Kin and which have already been contaminated with silt and clay through sloppy operation of the mega quarry. </p>
<p>We have been betrayed on so many levels, as has our glorious environment. Disgraceful beyond belief.</p>
<p>Robyn Jones<br />
Kin Kin</p>
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		<title>Comment on The facts on coal seam gas by Judy Oakenfull</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2011/04/the-facts-on-coal-seam-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Oakenfull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 06:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Information here.  I am helping put together the Caldera Environment Centres Newsletter and was hoping I could use this if its okay. Especially the how to do your bit section.  Fracking is just hitting Northern NSW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Information here.  I am helping put together the Caldera Environment Centres Newsletter and was hoping I could use this if its okay. Especially the how to do your bit section.  Fracking is just hitting Northern NSW.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fight to save the brigalow by Bernie Walsh</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2010/12/the-fight-to-save-the-brigalow/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 04:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was extremely concerned over the past few months when I heard about fracking in Queensland and the comments of some of the people affected. Recently SBS showed a documentary called Gasland about fracking in the USA. I presume that interested people were aware of and have seen it. I have a copy of this frightening practise but would assume that people could get a copy from SBS.  I hope this preactise is allowed no more in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was extremely concerned over the past few months when I heard about fracking in Queensland and the comments of some of the people affected. Recently SBS showed a documentary called Gasland about fracking in the USA. I presume that interested people were aware of and have seen it. I have a copy of this frightening practise but would assume that people could get a copy from SBS.  I hope this preactise is allowed no more in Australia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Up close with Andrew McNamara MP by Will</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2008/04/up-close-with-andrew-mcnamara-mp/comment-page-1/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live next door to mr andrew macnamara, well, the house he lets in pt vernon, and while its a magnificent queenslander rah rah, the huge tree in his yard which my 89 year old grandmother who owns the house next door, drops leaves and branches on her house and the branches are actually rubbing on her roof, and we have asked his real estate and sent him letters to have it cut because my grandmother is a pensioner and cannot afford and is legally not allowed to, so maybe he should get something done about it before a storm comes and my grandmothers house becomes in danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live next door to mr andrew macnamara, well, the house he lets in pt vernon, and while its a magnificent queenslander rah rah, the huge tree in his yard which my 89 year old grandmother who owns the house next door, drops leaves and branches on her house and the branches are actually rubbing on her roof, and we have asked his real estate and sent him letters to have it cut because my grandmother is a pensioner and cannot afford and is legally not allowed to, so maybe he should get something done about it before a storm comes and my grandmothers house becomes in danger.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Switching off to climate change by Greg Hardwick</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2011/04/attitudes-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Hardwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Gregory. Yes I agree with you about the message being simplified too much. And yes it&#039;s a sad truth that the hip pocket is often the way to get people to change or at least have some interest in a topic. 

The subject of how the public perceives scientific evidence and the confusion over the need for apparent balance is very interesting, and I plan to continue writing on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Gregory. Yes I agree with you about the message being simplified too much. And yes it&#8217;s a sad truth that the hip pocket is often the way to get people to change or at least have some interest in a topic. </p>
<p>The subject of how the public perceives scientific evidence and the confusion over the need for apparent balance is very interesting, and I plan to continue writing on the topic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Switching off to climate change by Gregory John Olsen Esq</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2011/04/attitudes-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory John Olsen Esq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, Greg!  I, along with my climate action group, Climate Action Sydney Eastern Suburbs (CASES): http://www.cases.org.au/ have been pondering exactly the same issue. 

I was recently interviewed for a segment on CSIRO&#039;s Energymark project on Channel 7&#039;s Today Tonight program and, although they spent two hours with me and I said a lot about the environmental benefits of energy efficiencies and using renewables instead of fossil fuels, the broadcast content focused on the money that could be saved!  Check it out: http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/9261030/money/csiro-power

It appears that &#039;dumbing down&quot; the message to stimulate the &quot;hip pocket nerve&quot; is the only way to elicit the response we want form many Australians.  Sad but true.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Greg!  I, along with my climate action group, Climate Action Sydney Eastern Suburbs (CASES): <a href="http://www.cases.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cases.org.au/</a> have been pondering exactly the same issue. </p>
<p>I was recently interviewed for a segment on CSIRO&#8217;s Energymark project on Channel 7&#8242;s Today Tonight program and, although they spent two hours with me and I said a lot about the environmental benefits of energy efficiencies and using renewables instead of fossil fuels, the broadcast content focused on the money that could be saved!  Check it out: <a href="http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/9261030/money/csiro-power" rel="nofollow">http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/article/9261030/money/csiro-power</a></p>
<p>It appears that &#8216;dumbing down&#8221; the message to stimulate the &#8220;hip pocket nerve&#8221; is the only way to elicit the response we want form many Australians.  Sad but true.  <img src='http://econews.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Protecting Bribie Island by Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2008/12/protecting-bribie-island/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reallise this is an old post but I only just came across it....yes ondce there were many koalas on bribie island. Before the eucalyptus was destroyed to implement a pine plantation.

 Boorabee (sp?) is a local word meaning koala...from boorabee came its shortened adaptation - Bribie.


There is a book out there somewhere with a title something like....&#039;Boorabee, Bribie Island&#039;s koala legacy&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reallise this is an old post but I only just came across it&#8230;.yes ondce there were many koalas on bribie island. Before the eucalyptus was destroyed to implement a pine plantation.</p>
<p> Boorabee (sp?) is a local word meaning koala&#8230;from boorabee came its shortened adaptation &#8211; Bribie.</p>
<p>There is a book out there somewhere with a title something like&#8230;.&#8217;Boorabee, Bribie Island&#8217;s koala legacy&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bargains you can&#8217;t refuse by Eco Admin</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2007/12/bargains-you-cant-refuse/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Eco Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the article mentions ... &quot;Tip Top Tip Shop at the Noosa dump&quot;. For more information visit: http://www.nctc.com.au/background.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the article mentions &#8230; &#8220;Tip Top Tip Shop at the Noosa dump&#8221;. For more information visit: <a href="http://www.nctc.com.au/background.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nctc.com.au/background.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bargains you can&#8217;t refuse by brent</title>
		<link>http://econews.org.au/2007/12/bargains-you-cant-refuse/comment-page-1/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok exactly where is this tip top shop plenty of stories on the page but no info on where it is or how to  get there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok exactly where is this tip top shop plenty of stories on the page but no info on where it is or how to  get there</p>
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